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Re: Timeline

Jeff Young
Hi Jim,

I was also thinking about this and some other similar cases (such as 4-wheel cabooses or Idaho Springs mills), and sometimes the threads on this forum are the authoritative source.

So if you could copy all of your last post (minus the question to me) into a new thread (so it won't get deleted when we clean this one up), then I can just reference that thread in the timeline.

Cheers,
Jeff.
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Re: Timeline

Jim Courtney
Good idea, Jeff.

"South Park Timeline Footnote" created as new thread:

http://c-sn3-discussion-forum.41377.n7.nabble.com/South-Park-Time-Line-Footnote-The-Diamond-Stacks-of-1910-td3903.html

Diamond stack info deleted from this thread.

Maybe it is time for you to start deleting earlier iterations of the timeline?

Jim
Jim Courtney
Poulsbo, WA
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Jeff Young

Corporate

1898 C&S formed from UPD&G and DL&G. [1]
1908 CB&Q purchased C&S from Hawley interests. [1]
1912 C&S sold its 50% stake in the Colorado Midland. [1]
1920 D&RG -> D&RGW [1]
1928 C&S petitioned ICC to abandon Waterton to Leadville (denied 1930). [1, 6]
1935 C&S petitioned ICC to abandon Denver to Climax (granted 1937). [1]

Denver


Clear Creek


Morrison Branch

1939 Lakeland spur salvaged. [5]

Silica Branch

1908/09 Silica branch constructed. [2, 3]
1912 Silicated Brick Company reorganized as Silica Brick and Clay Company. [2]
1916 Silica Brick and Clay Company failed. [2]
1940 Silica branch "abandoned" (although intermittent service remained). [2, 5]
1941 Silica branch salvaged. [2, 3]

Platte Canon

1937 Waterton to Como abandoned. [1]

High Line

1895 Wilfley's Mill spur (Kokomo) constructed. [6]
1895 Kokomo "downtown" depot constructed. [6, 7]
1902 Dickey coal chute constructed. [6]
1908 Breene's Mill spur (Kokomo) constructed. [6]
1909 Boreas Pass engine house burned. [3]
1910 Boreas Pass service suspended. [1]
1911 D&RG Blue River branch leased to C&S, but not operated after January. [1]
1913 Boreas Pass service resumed. [1]
1914 - 18 Kokomo depot moved to main-line. [6, 7]
1915 C&S petitioned ICC for abandonment (denied). [1]
1923 D&RGW petitioned ICC for abandonment of Blue River branch (granted). [1]
1924 D&RGW Blue River branch salvaged. [1]
1934 Boreas Pass snow shed burned. [3]
1937 Como to Climax abandoned. [1]
1938 Como to Climax salvaged. [1], [5]
1943 Climax to Leadville standard gauged. [1]
1962 Climax to Leadville saw last use of steam power on Class I US railroad. [1]

Gunnison

~1906 Alpine Tunnel stone engine and boarding houses burned (including original water and coaling facilities). [3]
1906 Alpine Tunnel frame boarding house constructed. [4]
1907 50-foot turntable installed at Alpine Tunnel. [3]
1908 Alpine Tunnel water tank constructed. [3]
1910 Alpine Tunnel closed. [1]
1910 Trout Creek pass closed. [1]
1911 D&RG took over operation of Baldwin branch and Parlin to Quartz portion of mainline. [1]
1915 Gunnison and Parlin water tanks removed. [1]
1922 Track between Schwanders and Garos salvaged. [1]
1923 Rails between Parlin and Gunnison and between Quartz and Hancock sold. [1]
1924 Buena Vista to Hancock abandoned. [1]
1926 Buena Vista to Romley salvaged. [1]
1932 D&RGW/C&S petitioned ICC for abandonment of Parlin to Quartz (granted 1934). [1]
1934 Parlin to Quartz salvaged. [1]

Ohio Creek

1911 D&RG took over operation of Baldwin branch (and Parlin to Quartz portion of mainline). [1]
1937 C&S Baldwin branch sold to D&RGW. [1]

Motive Power

1902 B-4C's re-boilered and equipped with straight stacks [9]
1905 all engines now have shotgun stacks (engines #13, #30 #59 were all photographed around 1910 with atypical, new diamond stacks, perhaps a temporary experiment in spark control) [9, 13]
1913 Como (cone-style) spark arrestors [10]
1917/18 Ridgway (bear-trap) spark arrestors [10]
1931 #70 converted to oil [9]

Freight Cars

1897/98 St. Charles 3-board truss coal cars (UPD&G 3930 - 4015, to C&S 4000 - 4085 in 1899) [11]
1898 St. Charles truss box cars (UPD&G 6500 - 6524, to C&S 7722 - 7746 in 1899) [11]
1898 St. Charles 4-board truss coal cars (4086 - 4245) [8]
1898 St. Charles truss box cars (8025 - 8064) [8]
1898 St. Charles truss reefers (550 - 555) [8]
1902 C&S/ASF truss coal cars (4246 - 4407) [8]
1902 C&S/ASF truss flat cars (1078 - 1097) [8]
1903 C&S/ASF truss box car (8065) [8]
1906 C&S/ASF truss box car (8066) [8]
1907 C&S/ASF truss box cars (8067 - 8102) [8]
1907/08 C&S/Bettendorf truss coal cars (4408 - 4497) [8]
1907/08 C&S/Bettendorf truss box cars (8103 - 8192) [8]
1908 -1917 surviving C&S cabooses rebuilt from their DL&G/UPD&G predecessors [8, 12]
1909 C&S/Bettendorf SUF reefers (500 - 519) [8]
1909/10 C&S/Bettendorf SUF box cars (8193 - 8419) [8]
1910 C&S/Bettendorf SUF coal cars (4498 - 4547) [8]
1911 reefers renumbered (500 - 519 to 1100 - 1119; 550 - 555 to 1120 - 1125) [3]
1918 coal car conversions to drop/removable end configuration (renumbered 4600 - 4614)  [8]



[1] Osterwald, Doris B., High Line to Leadville
[2] Douglas County Historic Preservation Board, Silicated Brick Company Landmark Application
[3] Poor, M. C., Denver South Park and Pacific
[4] Helmers, Dow, Historic Alpine Tunnel
[5] Ferrell, Mallory H., C&Sng
[6] Mather, Sandra F., PhD, Frisco and the Ten Mile Canyon
[7] Schoppe, Bob, "A Visit to Kokomo", Bogies and the Loop vol 10 issue 2
[8] Poole, Derrell, from Narrow Gauge Pictorial vol VIII
[9] Wagner, Hol F. Jr., The Colorado Road
[10] Coleman, George L. Narrow Gauge Pictorial vol VI
[11] Poole, Derrell, from C&S Connection plans, 1989
[12] Poole, Derrell, "A History of Colorado & Southern Cabooses, Part 3", Outdoor Railroader, 12-1995/1-1996.
[13] http://c-sn3-discussion-forum.41377.n7.nabble.com/South-Park-Time-Line-Footnote-The-Diamond-Stacks-of-1910-td3903.html
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Re: Timeline

Jeff Young
Hi John,

Do you have source attributions for your Morrison Branch timeline so I can drop that info in?  (You mentioned that most of it is Mac Poor, but I don't know what is and what isn't.)

Cheers,
Jeff.
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